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RE: [fw1-gurus] Exceeding NAT Translations



Derek...

The entries in the fwx_alloc can first be checked with a cursory 
check to see what the predominant entry is in the source field
which should be the first or second colum IIRC.  For me the easiest
way is to simply capture the output of the table 
'fw tab -u -t fwx_alloc' into a text file and then import it into
a database and run a simple count query on the source IP.

The second thing you can do is to take the top 5 entries and 
convert them from hex to decimal.  For this task a simple hex 
calculator, some hex math, or the use of Check Point's InfoView
are very handy.

As for having seen this before, I have, and in almost every single
case the issue has been a trojan or scanner on the network.  This
will become obvious if you do the two things I mention above.  You
should be able to track down who the heavy hitter is and cure that
problem should that be the case.

The only other issue that it could be is NG AI's new ability to 
run in "VRRP aware" mode.  I have found that this didn't work 
very well and resulted in a multitude of issues in R54.  I have 
found that running with the OPSEC option works best under R54, 
using traditional NG FP3 configurations (no topology under your
gateway cluster, but topology for cluter members). 

If it is the firewalls that are being hidden by a NAT rule, make sure 
that you add a single NAT rule to the top of your NAT policy that says
source=any destination=vrrp.mcast.net service=any xlate-src=orig
xlate-dest=orig xlate-svc=orig.  Make certain that it is at the 
top of your rulebase and that should take care of any unnecessary
translation of VRRP packets.  

hope this helps...
jason...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones, Derek A. [mailto:DAJones@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:05 PM
> To: fw1-gurus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [fw1-gurus] Exceeding NAT Translations
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> Here is the problem, we have resetly migrated from 4.1 FP3 to NG-AI
> 
> After migrating we continue to see an inconsistency between 
> the number of connections and the number of entries in the 
> fwx_alloc database
> 
> Fw tab -t connections -s
> Produces:   4000 current and 10000 max
> 
> 
> Fw tab -t fwx_alloc -s
> Produces:   75000 current and 75000 max
> 
> 
> As some can tell, we have increased the maximum number of NAT 
> Translation in the fwx_alloc table to 75000
> 
> The table fills up about ever 36 hours
> 
> We have also tried removing extra packages in IPSO
> 
> 
> Hardware:    Nokia 710
> OS:		 IPSO 3.7 Build 29
> Checkpoint:  Checkpoint NG-AI
> VRRP Clustered Active-Passive
> 
> 
> We figure this is a problem associated with upgrading and a 
> difference between CP 4.1 and NG-AI
> 
> Also our thought are that the entries in the table more point 
> to the problem
> 
> Has anyone had a problem like this?
> How did you fix it?
> 
> If not, is there any kind of tools to decipher the fwx_alloc table?
> 
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